Safest Way to Break a Bone?   (02/04/00)
	Joe wrote: Are all the boundaries and limits in our lifestyle totally subjective? I mean I see the subject of the original post and the replies...and I think "Is there nothing that is unacceptable? It's ok to do such damage to another human being because they asked for it?" I think that can only be answered by the people directly involved. Maybe that's trying to make life easier on me, but that's the way that I feel. Joe wrote: I swear, I not trying to pass judgement here. Obviously, I'm queasy with the idea of breaking bones and it's not something I would do. I dunno...maybe I'm making this too much of a morality issue. Scatplay and watersports make me as queasy as you're prolly feeling over this topic. The gunplay that I do probably makes Tobie as queasy as this topic does you. (I'm speculating, here. I honestly dont' know if gunplay makes Tobie queasy.:) The idea of someone actually sticking needles into someone makes me queasy enough that I have some serious problems. Ask Tiger my reaction to seeing a commercial for the local news that was showing a liposuction procedure...he'll verify just how queasy I was. I managed not to chuck dinner back past my tonsils, but not by much. Joe wrote: Again, I'm not looking to piss off anybody. Just sorting out my thoughts and values, once again. I don't think that the way that you've posted indicates you were doing anything more than asking. :) For me, the issue of what is unacceptable revolves around consent. Non-consent makes it unacceptable. The actual *action* that is or is not being consented to is irrelevant. I may have my feelings about it. They may be *REALLY* strong feelings. A persons actions may violate what I believe to be acceptable so badly that I will not associate with htem paast that point. But, that doesn't mean that they cannot do it. They are responsible for what they and their partner might do. And consent is the crux of it.